It's quite a sad story, when people working in Microsoft used to be the experts of all experts on Windows, and at the present moment people from outside know Windows better... It seems like the only people left in there are maintainers...
ndiddy 3 hours ago [-]
If you look at the first binary patch for Equation Editor, it's very well done: https://blog.0patch.com/2017/11/did-microsoft-just-manually-... . The problem was that when they fixed it once, other researchers started fuzzing Equation Editor and found many more bugs. Bringing a C++ program from 2000 up to modern security standards when you don't have the source code isn't really feasible, it would be an endless series of whack-a-mole binary patches. I don't really blame Microsoft for dropping support, especially when there's been a replacement equation editor in Office since 2007.
jeroenhd 9 hours ago [-]
Microsoft last patched the tool by manually patching the binary executable. It seems like they don't have the source code for the tool anymore. There was also a long string of vulnerabilities in the tool, which seems to have stopped being updated at source level somewhere around 2000 based on the copyright in the screenshot.
MS should write an alternative to the tool (and I believe they have done so at some point in modern versions of Office), but removing this piece of abandonware was the right call.
Someone 9 hours ago [-]
> It seems like they don't have the source code for the tool anymore
“Equation Editor was a formula editor developed by Design Science that allowed users to construct math and science equations in a WYSIWYG environment, and was included in Microsoft Office and several other commercial applications. It was a simplified version of Design Science's MathType”
> MS should write an alternative to the tool (and I believe they have done so at some point in modern versions of Office)
Indeed, and the first version they did that in cannot be called modern anymore. From that same page:
“Beginning with Office 2007, Equation Editor is no longer the default method of creating equations, and is kept for compatibility with old documents only. Instead, a reengineered equation editor is included”
2b3a51 3 hours ago [-]
Going back to the Windows 95/98 era and Windows 2k at work I remember a link or line of text in one of the Equation Editor dialogs where they said you could upgrade to the full MathType.
It is the compatibility with old documents that could be an issue with Microsoft's complete removal of the old Equation Editor. I suppose anyone dealing with legacy documents should be using a vm with Win2000 and Office 2000 really.
Someone 2 hours ago [-]
> It is the compatibility with old documents that could be an issue with Microsoft's complete removal of the old Equation Editor
“Equation Editor 3.0 objects will still display normally if you have MT Extra font installed (if you don't have the font, you can download it)”
I think the equation is an OLE object with a preview image.
wolfi1 10 hours ago [-]
I guess it's prompt writers
serhack_ 10 hours ago [-]
I just wished there could be something easy to replace this equation editor, it's really smooth for people that are not really proficient with LaTeX
electroly 3 hours ago [-]
Microsoft wrote their own replacement and it's better-integrated into Office than the old editor was. Search for "insert equation" in the Office search box. The new one supports both the old editor's style of input and actual LaTeX inputs. Heed the dates on articles talking about it: TFA is from 2018 before they wrote the new editor.
You can then download the image. The only thing I think they should add is the equation string as a comment to the images so you can upload and continue editing without a proprietary file format.
password4321 6 hours ago [-]
> the equation string as a comment to the images
Yes some diagramming tools do this when exporting to PNG, this is a great feature
https://www.wiris.com/en/mathtype/
MS should write an alternative to the tool (and I believe they have done so at some point in modern versions of Office), but removing this piece of abandonware was the right call.
I think they never owned the source code. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Office_shared_tools#...:
“Equation Editor was a formula editor developed by Design Science that allowed users to construct math and science equations in a WYSIWYG environment, and was included in Microsoft Office and several other commercial applications. It was a simplified version of Design Science's MathType”
> MS should write an alternative to the tool (and I believe they have done so at some point in modern versions of Office)
Indeed, and the first version they did that in cannot be called modern anymore. From that same page:
“Beginning with Office 2007, Equation Editor is no longer the default method of creating equations, and is kept for compatibility with old documents only. Instead, a reengineered equation editor is included”
It is the compatibility with old documents that could be an issue with Microsoft's complete removal of the old Equation Editor. I suppose anyone dealing with legacy documents should be using a vm with Win2000 and Office 2000 really.
https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/office/equation-editor-6...:
“Equation Editor 3.0 objects will still display normally if you have MT Extra font installed (if you don't have the font, you can download it)”
I think the equation is an OLE object with a preview image.
There are also some other PlugIns like TeXsword. But I have not tested them. And newer MS Office versions seem to support Latex macros directly. [2]
[1] https://github.com/Jonathan-LeRoux/IguanaTex
[2] https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/office/linear-format-equ...
You can then download the image. The only thing I think they should add is the equation string as a comment to the images so you can upload and continue editing without a proprietary file format.
Yes some diagramming tools do this when exporting to PNG, this is a great feature